My plan for an island "COUNTRY" that can work

[redbaron]

Once you have everything in place, it becomes common place. It is like a youngster when they first get a pair of glasses. They think everyone is looking at them...but once the kid gets used to them...he does not even notice them himself. It is good to question even minute details, however, would you have any alternatives?

Gary
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[JCredible86]

I guess that's how you would have to do it. If you have to lay line you'll need a group of technicians around for the just in case. At that rate everyone on the island will be there to keep it running instead of just living.

[redbaron]

As I was putting together this whole plan for a complete island, I would envision what all was going to be needed to create an ideal island for all to live on. Utopia does not exist...and because of the human factor, utopia will always be kept at arms length from becoming reality. Although Socialism is really a great concept, that is all it is...a concept. Everyone who has experienced freedom and capitalism understand the need to exceed. To have more and more stuff. It may not be necessary, but that is the mind-set. To achieve higher rankings. For people who have not lived the life of that kind of freedom, it would seem to me that it would be what their dreams are made of.

Now imagine the 100 families each living in $125,000 homes and each household has 2 golf carts. You will have those who will chose to have the '57 Chevy body style...you will have others who want the Cadillac or Lincoln body style...and then there are those who want the Ferrari or Lambourghini body style...see?...some want more and bigger and better than others. That is just human nature.

The houses start at one price for all. How many families might want more? A bigger floor plan. More amenities or more lavish interiors or upgraded kitchens...etc. That is why there are so many different houses and price ranges across the land today...we are all different. You can try to interview all of them to get "like-mindedness" but that will probably prove to be an elusive goal. "All you can do, is all you can do---but all you can do is enough". You cannot do any more than all you can do. There is no such thing as giving 110%...!! IF you think you can do more than 100%then you are just fooling yourself.

One goal...one group...pooled money...like-minded people...live like you want to live... hurting no one else...hampering no one else...do not tread on others... basically, get to the goal of the group on your own and in your own way. Utilize the tools of achievement that is available to you and, like water, seek your own level in the society of your surroundings.

There are a few things that I had laid down the law concerning bad and/or stupid things on the island, but without some boundaries to make sure we are all safe, then there would be chaos. That is why countries with small governments are so much better off...less rules..more freedoms... less taxes!
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[JCredible86]

I'm the type of person that has to get it right, and get exactly what I want. No matter what it takes, all I have is time. If for some reasons I ever made multi-millions from one of my ideas (or the Powerball). I would by and island but the way I always envisioned is different.

I would buy it, and have everything built, houses, farms, hospital, and observatory. I would hurricane proof (as much as possible) everything. Then the mission would be finding people to live there.

I wouldn't sell land to anyone. If I did it would be ultra expensive so you would have to be rich. Everyone would be tenants/caretakers. I wouldn't want my Island to be commercial at all. A boutique resort may be an option. Having a resort would pay the taxes, supplies, repairs, and the tenants.

Even if I did go the resort route it would be on the complete opposite side of the island where tourists couldn't go. I know people think it's weird to buy an island and let people live there for free, but it makes perfect sense. Investment protection. In my mind it seems almost impossible to find 100 people to invest 300,000. Rich/Important people only want to be on an island a few weeks, maybe a month a max, but they are not the true island types.

On the other hand you could find 10,000 qualified, "like minded" people that can't afford but would really be there year round. So it would make sense to find 100-300 out of that 10,000. After you've found them then you could set up law enforcement, fire squad and everything else. I don't want to be hitler (no caps). Everyone can eat the "pie", there maybe even been more than 1 person that baked it, but one person bought it.

[redbaron]

I have been asked about the chosen people on the island to have them pay even more money toward the infrastructure of the island. That would be great, but I believe there is a certain number of people that will be able to support the island and make it work, but just because these are the people of like mindedness and possibly with more money than most, I feel the island should support itself and not remove any more money from the residents than is necessary. As time passes, before this society can be established, the individual start up family fee may have to increase to meet the rising costs of building and setting up the infrastructure.

Now if the people of the island vote to raise extra money for various projects to go toward improvement for all, then everyone should contribute to the project in order to participate in the final results. For example: to get more medical equipment in the infirmary for the betterment of the community. That can get expensive and everyone can benefit from using this equipment. I do not believe in posing a tax on everyone in order to get the extras.

REMEMBER: Keep "government" very small. Any government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take away everything you have!!

There are many countries in the world today who have agreements with other countries to allow income taxation over $80,000. I would not allow any contracts/agreements of any sort that would infringe upon the rights of the people of our island! In other words, if you were doing business and making money while living on the island, you would not be subject to paying income taxes to any country or entity anywhere in the world!! I have never figured out why the money I earn should be taxed by the government...and then the laws say you must pay or go to jail. What kind of FREE ENTERPRISE is that!!??? Just tax the goods and services to keep the infrastructure viable and growing...a consumption tax. If you buy it or use you should pay for that use or privilege....but if you earn it, there should never be a tax on Free Enterprise...
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[jeanlery2010]

Planning for everything before going to do what you have decided will be a big tool for the development of the project envisioned. Things must have to be prepared from small details to the most complicated one. Starting a new story of the new phase of your life is like digging a lot full of hard rocks, but sooner or later you will be going to pay and/or reap what has it take. I t all depends on your perseverance, determination, love on whatever you do and of course the faith in God.
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[arjelou06]

I am glad to see you here. I think that idea is great. You can use also solar system or generator for that. We all know that living in an island is not easy especially if it is really far away from the main town land. However, if you can find the peace in your life there, I think the good side of it.

[redbaron]

It is good to have you two on-board. I like to plan things out in large detail at first and then spiral into the minute details to make each leg of the operation work. I even throw my ideas out to my friends and kinfolk to get their ideas or reactions to my plans. I do have a solar power set-up as mediary back-up and sustained daily use for each owner.

I can smell the sea salt in the wind blowing across the island...the freedom that comes with being liberated...simple rules/laws...a working infrastructure that runs everything flawlessly...(day-dreaming here)...everyone contributes equally to the common good, but far be it from socialism, because if someone wants to improve on their earnings or ownership or just wants more "stuff", well, more power to them.

I am tired of the way the current leader of the USA is turning us around and going in the wrong direction. In the unlikely event that he is re-elected, then it will be time to set up the island and bring those of like mindedness with me and make our island our new country. I fought hard to keep our country free while I was in the military...but voting is too slow to rid our political mess of these socialists! I am not a quitter, but I strong fighter to keep my liberty and way of life FREE!

I would be interested in those who would entertain the idea of moving onto an island and supporting this concept. Do not worry about the money needed right now, just let your feelings and consciousness be your guide! Post right here or send to my personal email gary.harp@yahoo.com Confidentiality of the highest degree.
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[redbaron]

Now, imagine an island that is about 600 acres, with hills and rises in the central parts of the island, clear sandy beaches, and clear water all around. You have neighbors that think like you do and have beliefs as you do...when do you ever get to pick your neighbors like that?
The island I have in mind is in the Pacific Ocean, very close to the Great Barrier Reef. Even though a tropical storm or two does occur occasionally, this area is relatively serene. The swimming and surfing would be divine as well as the fishing and boating. Snorkeling and scuba diving would be so beautiful and wonderful.
THIS WOULD TRULY BE PARADISE ON EARTH!!

Leave your thoughts and I will respond...
Now...who wants to go??
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[coralguy]

Redbaron for President!! Count me in !!

[redbaron]

There is so much economic disorder in the world today, as well as civil unrest, that it only makes sense that we be prepared before the cut off time that will keep this plan from happening. There will be total government control of our lives and we can see that happening on a daily basis. Laws are passed that keep our rights at bay as they "eat" at our civil liberties and erode our freedoms as we have known them.
I have been putting together all the various aspects of island living on a grand scale as described in my forum, so I am feeling the necessity of keeping a sense of urgency about the fact of proceeding toward initiating the beginnings and set up of gathering committed people and necessities to a new beginning of island living.
I will need to begin a list of people/families who are conservative in thought and action, yet willing to take a stand to be a part of starting our own country. You can only FIX something or PATCH it just so much before you just need to wipe the slate clean and start fresh as our Fore Fathers did and still intend for us to be free and unencumbered of overbearing government.

My plan is to conduct interviews to make sure people QUALIFY to live on the island in harmony with others. This will cost each family $350,000 for the package deal. A bank account will be set up and the banker will keep track of each family's deposits until the $350K is reached. No money will be extracted until all 100 slots are filled and paid for. IF, at any time, a family wishes to pull out from the deal, all money will be refunded, less any banking fees incurred.

Just list yourself and a good email address that I can forward a questionnaire to you, if you are seriously interested.

I have always liked the T-shirt saying, "We are God fearing, gun toting conservatives, wanting to make a difference"
Gary
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[redbaron]

I have been formulating the information for a regular blog about this island and community that I want to assemble. As soon as I am able to get this blog set up, I will post a link in this forum.

Gary
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