Start Your Own Country

My plan for an island "COUNTRY" that can work

redbaron — Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:46 am

Author: redbaron

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:46 am

I have been asked about the chosen people on the island to have them pay even more money toward the infrastructure of the island. That would be great, but I believe there is a certain number of people that will be able to support the island and make it work, but just because these are the people of like mindedness and possibly with more money than most, I feel the island should support itself and not remove any more money from the residents than is necessary. As time passes, before this society can be established, the individual start up family fee may have to increase to meet the rising costs of building and setting up the infrastructure.

Now if the people of the island vote to raise extra money for various projects to go toward improvement for all, then everyone should contribute to the project in order to participate in the final results. For example: to get more medical equipment in the infirmary for the betterment of the community. That can get expensive and everyone can benefit from using this equipment. I do not believe in posing a tax on everyone in order to get the extras.

REMEMBER: Keep "government" very small. Any government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take away everything you have!!

There are many countries in the world today who have agreements with other countries to allow income taxation over $80,000. I would not allow any contracts/agreements of any sort that would infringe upon the rights of the people of our island! In other words, if you were doing business and making money while living on the island, you would not be subject to paying income taxes to any country or entity anywhere in the world!! I have never figured out why the money I earn should be taxed by the government...and then the laws say you must pay or go to jail. What kind of FREE ENTERPRISE is that!!??? Just tax the goods and services to keep the infrastructure viable and growing...a consumption tax. If you buy it or use you should pay for that use or privilege....but if you earn it, there should never be a tax on Free Enterprise...

Freedom of Zoning First, Sovereignty Second.

JpComedy — Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:37 pm

Author: JpComedy

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:37 pm

Seems to me like a lot of people on this forum are dreaming of autonomy from the governing powers that rule them, without thinking through how this could impact their way of life, and the situations that present themselves on the island.

With that in mind, it's fair to say owning your own island seems like a great way to be independent, while still being part of the mainland. Stimulate economy, pay your taxes, and only invite people on your island who you'd like to palaver with. Sounds quite pleasant, really.

Working within the system is always the best way to get things done, and thankfully this website and others like it have been helping people realize their dreams for a long time now.

new island,new country,new life for all of us

Richie — Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:28 am

Author: Richie

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:28 am

Paimonia wrote:

Greece is my choice...

So, at this point, it seems we have to give US administration some reason to hate Greece, kick Greece out of EU and UN, and we're almost there. Piece of cake!

Surely in this case the EU's opinion means more than the Americans'? Although it would be handy to have both countries' support in the matter, I suppose.

Hmm, did I just call the EU a country? Maybe...

Ownership of an unclaimed island

Richie — Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:20 am

Author: Richie

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:20 am

JCredible86 wrote:

Are the taxes super high?

Higher than they'd be if you set your own

KyletheIntern wrote:

My suggestion, find a nice, remote island in a country with a stable political system.

I remember a while ago seeing a list of all the countries in the world in order of stability, determined by such things as how many wars they've had, how many changes of political system, things like that. Any chance anyone knows where I could find it?

The People

JCredible86 — Sun Aug 09, 2009 6:32 am

Author: JCredible86

Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 6:32 am

The most important thing no one has addressed is the people. How would you choose the future inhabitants of your island? Islands aren't for everybody so thats a lot of people that aren't interested. Even then you wouldn't want to be stuck in the middle of the ocean with just anybody. What would be the qualifications for living on your Island? My 1 goal in life is to own an Island. I would want one big enough for a farm (Chickens, Cows ect.) That alone would require people living there year round, but how many people willing to do that? Also if you were to find the perfect (or near perfect) 50-100 people (or whatever your # is), would you pay them, or give them houses? It wouldn't make sense to pay in my opinion because living on an Island is a privilege. If your providing the Island, food, and all I have to do is farm the land that's easy. These are just a couple issues I've been having with my plans.

Lets assume it's posslible

redbaron — Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:30 pm

Author: redbaron

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:30 pm

My lack of attention to the detail that you were the author of Instructables is quite evident. I partially blame the lateness of the hour last evening, but it is totally MY BAD, and I am sorry to have offended you. I can see that you have given this a lot of thought. And I commend you for your passion of the subject.

As for my user name of redbaron, I feel I must explain. Do not hold that against me in the context of bad history. I have a last name that is straight from The Green Isles of Ireland...HARP! We have raised miniature red daschunds for 18 years, and the birth name of our sire was Rhinny Red Baron and therefore I have taken on the user name of Red Baron for all these years. He was a tike of noteable character. I have no positive feelings for the german dictators and his cronies, so please do not take any offense in that direction as none is intended.
I am curious about what you mention about having U.N. membership. All I can ask is "WHY?" Personally I cannot see one thing they are any good for...at least not in my book, but that is my personal opinion just as you have yours. My direction is to have a very independent country. To depend only upon others that can supply the needs that we cannot produce for ourselves. I never want a strong, that is to say, an overpowering government. I am seeing that now and I swore as I entered the military to uphold the constitution, fight against communism, socialism, and any other ism that subverts its people.
As far as setting up off shore accounts...that is just a business to bring in income to help support the infrastructure. Tariffs would be levied on all imports which help pay for infrastructure projects. There are better ways of accruing money than going tax poor. I do not have a big objection to a consumption tax....paying that extra when you buy stuff..not when you earn money. It is YOUR money.

Now, to try to get us back on a better note, I am looking to set up an island to provide comfort and peace of mind in a place that peace can be achieved and the quality of life is excellent. All we ever hear now-a-days is how the government is screwing us over...I do not want that. My goal is to reach paradise, utopia, shangri-la....or whatever place of happiness we can be in. IT will be a tough achievement, but I think with like minded people working hard together to achieve this, that it can be done. IT happened in America in 1776...after a revolution...but I am not into the revolution thing, just freedom, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness with safety foremost.

I am not here to test you or your theories or ideas...just wanting to share mine as well. I think you have some great ideas. I really like the fact that you are still young and you have put all this together. That puts you in the one-in-a-million seat, so keep it up. I just see things in a little different light. I am 3 times your age, seen many things that are good and bad, and had experiences to show me how the world works for the most part. I am just drawing from those experiences and putting my thoughts together.
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Why do not intend to set up the country to establish a city?

gokhangirgin — Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:15 pm

Author: gokhangirgin

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:15 pm

Why do not intend to set up the country to establish a city all countries is impossible here even to set up permanent difficulties are discussed. currently going through the process of the sample does not get easier than we do?
For example, Herm Island / on the island of Guernsey (http://www.herm-island.com/home.aspx), founded a small town. on restaurants, hotels and government buildings as a small island. Tourism has a life-weighted. My idea is that people from specific occupational groups / families and to create and establish a cooperative partnership to buy an island. Then on the island to represent life. infrastructure and establishing a first port and to ensure placement. Then, the energy required for the island, telephone services, internet, market, as several small shops, such as a village square or a place to place baazar. The shop operated by island residents may contribute to the budget or to the partners of the island can be rented. then there will be enough income for the partners of the island (maybe citizens could say) to provide an income for life to continue of the hotel marina and tourist facilities will be constructed. Of course, how much do all these plans and have to be determined by joint decision.
In short, let's make an account:
For example mangunca Island, Brazil, too. (Http://www.privateislandsonline.com/mangunca-island.htm) 3700 acre area.
Cost of island $ 3,000,000/100 partners = $ 30,000
Home and infrastructure funds per capita average of $ 100,000 will be spent
Investment depends on the size of the money will be spent.
Status minimum $ 150,000 per person says something like the figure is reached.
Of course, this figure is completely hypothetical. That is a lot cheaper and can be selected for a small island, more people may be common, more simple to install an infrastructure.
No one can see the military and the military budget. invasion of any country is likely. Who will be the damage that a small town?
Yes, everyone's idea of waiting.

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Rod — Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:36 pm

Author: Rod

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:36 pm

Agreed very much, Thefilmwall!

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Richie — Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:57 pm

Author: Richie

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:57 pm

How could I be a tourist? Where would I be touring!?

A country by definition needs a defined territory. No getting around it.

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Richie — Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:48 pm

Author: Richie

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:48 pm

I don't know, just stuff I pick up. I read the strangest things for leisure. I'm currently reading a tax book! Then I can't cite my references because by the time I quote it, I forget where I read it. The part about the anchor, though, was just a guess.

How would you start a country??

Richie — Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:02 am

Author: Richie

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:02 am

You could start an army, yeh, but then there's always going to be a stronger army against you. You're better off getting support of nations that already have a strong army, like the US, the UN, NATO, pretty much anyone with a capitalised name!

Is starting your own country even necessary?!

vivalibre — Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:55 pm

Author: vivalibre

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:55 pm

Cheers Najee, feel free to use it.

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Sealand Won't Sell to Pirates

MikeC — Fri Nov 14, 2008 3:46 pm

Author: MikeC

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 3:46 pm

Scarlett wrote:

I was really pulling for piratebay.org to get that hunk of metal. There was no way they'd ever be able to afford it though. They were asking for donations, but how much can you really expect from a bunch of people who won't even pay for a movie or software?

About the only advantage I can see between that ugly hunk of metal and a real island is they do, sort of, almost, have a quasi claim of legitimacy as a separate country. There has been at least one (maybe two, I don't remember and I'm too lazy to look it up) lawsuits where a judge ruled that it was out of their jurisdiction. So while they may not be internationally recognized as a sovereign nation, there has been a precedent where they don't entirely fall under UK providence.

So right scarlett! I think they should finally be recognized as a sovereign nation.
On top of that Sealand is pretty desired by many people - the war was not for nothing!

By the way Scarlett I saw you are from Los Angels and I am probalby moving there with my girlfriend. I saw this nice article - Do you like living there?

What would you need to start an island!

islandmiss — Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:28 pm

Author: islandmiss

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:28 pm

Thanks, I'm glad to see I'm not alone in thinking that the greatest value of islands is in the beauty of the land itself